:-O. After its restoration it has real weight with half-filled deposit of 7.5 tones. 35 Egg Harbor It is leisure and recreational fishing boat that holds up to 8 people. 42 Bruno So you aren't saving any money at this point on running gear. Many of the several thousand built are still in use today, around the globe, still catching more than their share. Courtesy Volvo Penta. Being a fire captain in an area with a large harbor I have been on 6 boat Fires (in the water) in 19 years and many more in dry dock. scenarioL113 Senior Member Posts: 680 Joined: Sat May 31, 2008 2:00 pm Location: Massapequa Park, NY. The packages include the helm station , controls , engine , transom shield , drive and the props are 1900 per pair. by ranjr13 Dec 30th, '15, 11:20, Post FAQ; Home. Helm and passenger seating is a custom arrangement they seattwo each complete with footrests and storage. My loss your gain. Thanks for all the input, guys. by Tony Meola May 17th, '16, 22:42, Post Time to continue our love affair for old boats. I'm running ZF220a 1.5:1's with 21X22 Mich Nibral DJX (#5 cup) on inch and 3/8's shafts. I have the Yanmar 240's. Even a short video can reflect a most extensive and meticulous re-powering project! Alpha 4 propellers provide better performance in the water for your boat. Understood on your plan. Some finish up notes: On launch day, we pumped in 230 gallons of #2 and already had 20 in the tanks. The Bertram 31 launched Bertram Yacht, Inc. when it was introduced at the 1961 New York National Boat Show, essentially as a day boat for Florida sport fishermen. 26 Wahoo At 2200 rpms and 22 knts, the motors are loafing. Yard is saying do not have to change shaft or stuts and they have done several 31's already, Cummin would require the larger shafts and Struts, plus increased air flow, Any comments would be great and am sure will be needing more advice as we move forward, Soory guys the cummins are the 330 recons and the yanmar are the 315 6 lpy I think. The owner of a vintage Bertram converts his power package to Volvo Penta IPS. Post by scenarioL113 Mon Jun 28, . I have 60 feet of chain followed by 340 ft. of rode. Seaboard Marine delivers Guaranteed Better Than Factory Performance, Parts, Design, and Engineering for Cummins and other Marine Diesel applications. The famous ride is undeniably one of the best. I am based in Reno, NV but grew up in Southern California and look forward to getting back on the water fishing. Is this boat still for sale? Works really well. There are plenty of old diesel engines in service today. by bertram 20 Jun 1st, '16, 16:50, Post I had a Bertram with twin 140's. Does anyone think 500 hp will be too much. Copyright 2023 Yachting. Its bigger, beefier and better looking.. One I do not like the Lewmar 1000. Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. The fire was directly under a fabricated aluminum 80+ gallon GAS tank. #1. 28 Beal scot you hit the nail on the head i just did not bother going over this shaft talk over and over.the bert 31 is being converted from a gasser ---guess what laddies all installations you have to remove the shaft anyway to cut lenth to fit diesel, whoever your machine shop will drop the bomb ! With questionable older small shafts, the money difference was relatively small in upgrading - at least it was for me. "I'm 54, so I'm a little old-school," he stated in a press release. 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Marine and Boating Websites by YATCO BoatDeck, New 383 MAG Inboard 4V a perfect repower for all Bertram 28, 31 & 35s. Cruise at 2500 and 16kts. MOBY DICK is a leisure boat Bertram 31 fly, made in 1962 and acquired in 2013 to be restored. Bill Re: Bertram 31 / Yanmar 300 hp Repower From: ramille@banet.net Date: 4/5/99 Remote Name: 206.154.74.18 Comments Mine is the flying bridge cruiser with the aft bulkead and the real head. The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly. Cockpit Deck Soles An important and exciting part of what we do is evaluate your current engines and vessel performance to provide you with conservative future vessel speed and fuel savings. All great advice but for your budget, I would strongly suggest selling your existing boat and buying a 31 Bertram that is already converted to diesel. My goal is to have this boat fishing before I retire and done in a manner that with proper care and maintenance (learning this from this site), I will have a great, reliable fishing platform for 20+ years. Remanufactured GM V8 Marine Iron Block & Gen+ Heads 062 Casting, Thunderbolt V w/Knock Control MIE Calibration, Dual Plane Aluminium Intake Manifold with Bronze Inserts, Multi-point drain Hand Removable Blue Drain Plugs, Iron manifold with Dry-Joint Exhaust Elbow, Thermostatically Controlled Raw Water 143F, High Flow 100 psi Oil Pump and Copper Oil Cooler, SAE 25-40 NMMA Certified FC-W Synthetic Blend, 980lbs / 444kg When Installed with 72C Transmission, Audio Warning System: Oil Pressure Coolant Temperature Transmission Temperature, Need a new website? My last boat, a BHM Downeast had a John Deere and it was great. The investment will be well worth it in 15-20 years. Many 31's have been renovated at great expense, including new engines. 40 Knot, 31 ft. Bertram Odyssey. Interestingly enough, the new John Deere equipment I run on land all have Yanmar engines and have never had one issue, and know several with Yanmars in marine application and all very happy. Nothing missing. by dougl33 Sep 23rd, '08, 08:08, Post Thus if they do go a season or two, I'd be ahead of the game. I have Cummins and I question your guys saying its a more difficult installation and the need for more air for the Cummins. Covers Most of us have an opinion (usually a very strong one) about this iconic boat. Regarding my engines I purchased her with the 330Bs. Here's a heap of fit out, including fibreglass work, painting and what we thought was a massive disaster! I'm leaning towards Yanmar, but apparently need to go to the new 8LV-350 motors. by JP Dalik Sep 22nd, '08, 19:09, Post I have the opportunity to go forward with it and I want to do it right. Repower Projects "ORCA" H&H Downeast Lobster Boat Build; Farallon 27 Repower "Sea Harvester" Radon Boat Extension; . 31 Bertram The 3 gas fires were all fuel related. Just some of my thoughts. It is leisure and recreational fishing boat that holds up to 8 people. The meeting place for all Classic Bertram Owners and Fans. InTheBite's print and electronic media is committed to providing timely news, useful and substantive content to professional captains, boat owners, crew and anglers. the price is negotiable? by Yannis May 17th, '16, 03:12, Post WOW! First consideration is entirely focused on Structural, Mechanical and Electrical. 36 Chriscraft Walter. It was acquired in Nautic Club Ibiza (Spain) in quite a bad shape with no maintenance. by bob lico Dec 30th, '15, 22:35, Post The 370 is mated to a ZF63A gear 1.54:1 ratio which has an 8 degree down angle. 44 Henriques With the off-chance that either they fail earlier or I decide to move quicker, any thoughts on current model year replacement engines? by bob lico Sep 24th, '08, 07:40, Post Might need to get your glasses. . by mike ohlstein Jan 1st, '16, 10:48, Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 1 guest, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Ive always gone with foot switches and if properly placed I think they work very well but Im always open to options that do not include drilling more holes in the boat. Works really nice.. 2003 480CE Cooling Air Bleed/ Fuel Leak/Voltage Droop, StarCraft tachometer Error message Check engine battery, Reply To: remote oil filter and pressure relation, Reply To: StarCraft tachometer Error message Check engine battery, Marine Age the REAL age of a Marine Diesel Engine, Propellers Move Boats, Engines Just Turn Them, Everything you Need to Know About Marine Exhaust Systems, Continuous Duty A Different Perspective, This topic has 51 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated. Engine Accessories The 383 MAG Inboard is the perfect answer. If you have a good shop nearby (I like speed shops--those guys know motors), you can have your 454s rebuilt for cheap, and have motors that are still really easy to work on and reliable. Scuppers and Seacocks by Navatech Dec 29th, '15, 15:33, Post Walter. The wraparound walk-thru windshield protects you from the elements, and a 47-gallon fuel tank lets you make long runs to your favorite fishing spots. 46 Silverton I wanted to find a good rebuild shop for the long blocks. . Luckily the prior owner was onboard with the Seaboard way so when I took possession there were already several nice upgrades in place so I had an excellent starting point to continue with further customization and add-ons. by Navatech May 17th, '16, 10:59, Post He repowered her w/ Yanmar 4LHs (must be 15 years now) and she cruises great and sips fuel. 36 Runaway My Cummins 6Bs are rated at 315/330HP, with a max cruise speed of 2,800 RPMs. | All rights Reserved. Asymmetrical Stringers & Transmission Mountings. 52 Hatteras While they have been out of production for many years, used models are continually in demand regardless of age or condition. They were older carb'd 454s. patrick rudders. And many, probably most, have been modified, repowered, and renovated. Here are some key points on the Priceless: Thrust, Power, and Fuel Consumption: She is powered by twin 315 HP Yanmar diesels that provide the push to cruise 27 knots at 3150; with 34 Knots at 3800 WOT. by JP Dalik Sep 22nd, '08, 17:41, Post when it come to personal opinion i have one in my boat as generator (MASE) my corp has four small 3000 watt portable generators but they are all L-9 motors same as john deere small tractors absolutely nothing to do with using a Toyota land cruiser engine marinize in a 31 Bertram.they have abandon there stp 315 hp completely as a matter of fact you could hold a complete cylinder head as a ransom actually worth as much as the rest of the entire motor due to customers with a engine that went down due to a drop valve will pay big bucks to get there boat back in water. I have a B28 with 250 Yanmars. The 3.0 mercruisers are 135hp at the prop I believe. 1973 B28 FBC/2007 4LHA STP's - "Phantom Duck" - Hull "BER 00794 1172". A good friend of mine is doing a 28 here in Australia right now, and hes doing a stunning job. I feel very secure with the 1.5' shafts on the 31. I think if I ever repower again, I'll go with 300's or 330's I'm heavy so I cruise at 20 knots and top out at 24 knots loaded. I purchased the boat with those intentions after months of due diligence. This allows us to develop a working relationship that doesnt end after the repower, we expect more questions and feedback and guarantee to continue our high level of customer support. by Charlie J Dec 31st, '15, 11:21, Post x 33 ft.), SMX Bronze Freshwater Flush Cap for Groco ARG Series Strainers, Bronze Tee Adapter and Freshwater Flush System, Military Style Top Post Battery Terminals, Heavy Duty Marine Grade 316L Stainless Steel Washers, Cummins Marine Diamond Performance Series Engine Sticker, ZF Marine Transmission Sales & Current Inventory, ZF 45-85 A/IV Shift & Troll Cable Bracket, ZF Marine Transmission Oil Drain Line Kit, Suredrive Coupling for Borg Warner & ZF 220A, Suredrive Coupling for ZF 301 & 302 VLD/IV with Vulkan L, Marine Flex Plate (Velvet Drive, SAE 11.5), Vulkan Vulkardan-E (2K3411S004) SAE No. Is the hard top and isinglass in the attached picture look something like what you want? First off, great site - newcomer to this forum, but not Bertrams. My first B31--the Anna E.--had 454 gassers. 2021-22 Sportfish Build Report: Merritts Boat and Engine A First Look at the New Hulls from Bertram Yachts, From Lightning Strike to New Boat: The Story of the Artemis. The $$ adder was minimum IMO in comparison to the overall benefits.. next time around Ill bolt a QSB 380 into the 25 TJ !! I cruise at 2400rpms (23-24 knots) and top out at 2900rpms (29-30 knots). but now have lowered my speed because of the price of fuel as many others have done. I would suggest setting down with Tony and discussing the pros and cons of aluminum vs. stainless for the hard top frame work. Tony did some really nice things on that boat. Aluminum Products The universal opinions stem from the boat impact. Burgee and Logos Decision was made to totally gut the area due to a lot more rot than first pass review. This was my dream project. The Volvo gear that was in the lobster boat mated to an old 125 hp Volvo 40 was an 8 degree. I've got 300hp 6BTA's in my 33 Bert. In Forked River, the Yanmar dealer's reputation was lacking while the Cummins dealer has one of the best reps around. Will try to get a season or two out of them, then re-power. The hull is polar white gel coat. They're mostly heavy (for their output), dirty, loud, slow, and in need of TLC. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. and Boating Resources, 851 Ridge Drive | Hendersonville, NC. Hi all, I'm tossing the idea around of repowering my 1970 31 Bertram Bahia Mar. Repower Sales . Regarding engine choice If the same boat was side by side with QSBs, I still would have opted for the mechanical B, it was my target power, but thats just a personal preference, others would totally disagree with that comment.they all have their advantages, Im just a bit old school. Bruce is the best one to answer the Yanmar question, but from what I have heard they are not the engine they used to be. According to Soundings, aficionados refer to it as "Bertram Art." Again for railing system, Aluminum at greater than 1 inch diameter? by Yannis May 17th, '16, 10:53, Post The TARGA 19 also features extra-wide . Why stainless steel support work for the hard top? Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. Did she make 40Ks with those 800++ Yanmar ponies? by PeterPalmieri May 18th, '16, 13:07, Post JUST LOOK at how these CUMMINS DIESELS bring the 13.5 ton BERTRAM on plan. Four centerline automatic bilge pumps keep everything dry. by mike ohlstein Dec 31st, '15, 09:55, Post Is this boat still available? I had at least 200 lbs of tools and other things on board too. the marinize version is a POS. Now its a picnic boat on steroids, he says. The way it works: An existing Mako Marina customer refers a friend to become a NEW 2017-18 winter storage customer or a 2017 Mako slip customer and both will save 5% off slip or storage charges! So, she must hold real close to 250 gallons. Im looking for about 50 kts. A month or two after I bought my boat I was going to buy new props(1.6k) for spares from H+H propellor, the guy told me I should upgrade to 1.5 shafts at 4.5k cost. The refrigerator has been replaced and all new cushions complete with overhead rod racks. Fiberglass All that said, Priceless is greater than the sum of her parts. Hatches Niels, 34 Hatteras It is compact as well, so it will fit into the existing engine bay without any costly engineering, David said. I use the 750 which requires a power down as will as power up. Sadly the 6BT wont fit, so hes choosing between Yanmar 4 and 6 cylinder options. Since before Cummins Engine Company marinized their 6B 5.9 engine in the 1970s Mako Marina was a Cummins distributor and installing Cummins Engines. 31 Bay Head by Bruce May 17th, '16, 20:30, Post most are done with aluminum which allows you to use a much, much thinker tubing. if I go this route of a 31 with gassers I will intend to repower not long after. Hazleton: Independence. 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