Get the right 20 Tactical Dies or 20 Tactical Die Sets for your press here at Midsouth. A special thanks goes to Todd Kindler, whose hard work over the years has brought the merits of sub-caliber cartridges to the attention of the general shooting community. #2666026 - 04/01/14 08:14 AM Re: Forming 20 practical with RCBS Dies/equipment [ Re: dogduster204 ] You have to use the bushing die so you can neck down to 20 cal.It takes more than one step so you need to change size of bushing and your regular 223 die cant do that. All this adds up to economy as light bullets cost less than heavy ones, and small charges stretch powder budgets satisfyingly. other By: R.H. VamDenburg, Jr. | June, 23. In our experience, nearly all factory bullets benefit from sorting. The case and bullet are completely captured by the die prior to the bullet being pushed straight into the case by a close-fitting seating stem. I like to run rifle length on 18" 223s. I ordered an 18" light contour 20 Practical barrel from Mcowen. All my Brass is LC. Grafs.com list the brass as a Dakota Arms product, item # DU4HH5006, priced $39.99 per hundred. This reduces the neck diameter slightly. Do you mean the ball drags on the way in after its been sized with the .233, or that fired brass drags on the way in when you use the .226 bushing? The 20 Practical is an ideal 20-caliber solution for AR15 platforms. Like the 6PPC, it has the optimal bore to case capacity ratio for max efficiency. We've run the ballistics for a range of start velocities, so you can compare different cartridges. The white oak barrels are all heavy contour as well, not sure what contour youre after. While most of these bullets are designed for varminting, many target shooters are using the 40-50 grain bullets with considerable success. Although the Tactical 20 has about three grains less case capacity than the .204 Ruger, it delivers very similar performance. Concentricity is enhanced by the ability of the bushing to self-center on the neck of the cartridge case. Concentricity is enhanced by the ability of the resizing bushing to selfcenter. When it came to bullets, quite a number were found, from a Hornady 24-grain lead-free NTX to a 55-grain Berger. A variety of powders are available for use with the .20 Tactical cartridge; some worked better than others in VanDenburgs test rifle. The action is blued; the barrel is stainless steel, in a matte finish, 26 inches long with a one-in-12-inch twist. This little cartridge can launch 40-grainers at over 3900 fps, and 32-grainers even faster. And this may be a dumb question but if I have to go the Redding route, with that die fit/function in a RCBS press? Free shipping. The latter came in handy for setting exact overall cartridge length for the various bullets used. As formed, the brass chambered and the bolt closed without issue. This comes out in fireforming, but it didnt happen when using the .20 Tactical seating die approach. All Type-S dies use an interchangeable bushing to control neck diameter and tension to an increment of 0.001. I have a redding type S 223 FL die along with the redding decapping Redding Part #14206. After that you'll need a 1:11" or 1:10" twist. The VarTarg achieves this performance by using fast, high-energy propellants, such as H4198 and Vihtavuori N120. The full length (FL) resizing die contains a decapping rod assembly with a neck expander (size button). What started as a small dream has become a multi-million dollar international business It is the .223 Remington case necked down to .20 caliber with the neck lengthened slightly, the shoulder set back and sharpened to 30 degrees and the body slightly blown out. So yeah! the expander is dragging on the way out. I've been thinking about having a 20 practical made. I think it's part number 14206. You have to use the bushing die so you can neck down to 20 cal.It takes more than one step so you need to change size of bushing and your regular 223 die cant do that. No trimming is necessary if the cases were the proper length before starting. forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/20-practical-dies-headspacing-question.4052414/, Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 14_6 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/14.1.1 Mobile/15E148 Safari/604.1. This means you can expect more velocity from a Berger 40gr LTB than the Hornady 40gr V-MAX or the Sierra 39gr BlitzKing.Choosing the correct bullet weight will depend on the environmental condition and the size of prey. Are there any options for dies other than Redding Type S 223 with different a bushing? While researching on how to make the brass, it seems everyone talks about using a Redding 223 FL die set with bushings and a 204 decapping rod assembly. Right now Remington is the only source of parent .221 Fireball brass. You feel the expander touching going in on the .228? This cartridge is based on the 221 Fireball case and is probably the most efficient of the 20-Caliber cartridges. The real beauty of the .20s, however, is in the numbers ballistic coefficient (BC) numbers, to be specific. yes they will fit. While researching on how to make the brass, it seems everyone talks about using a Redding 223 FL die set with bushings and a 204 decapping rod assembly. If you are the site owner (or you manage this site), please whitelist your IP or if you think this block is an error please open a support ticket and make sure to include the block details (displayed in the box below), so we can assist you in troubleshooting the issue. You can start with .223 Rem brass, and just size down the necks with a neck-bushing die. . The VarTarg may be the smallest 20-Caliber cartridge in our survey, but it comes up big in efficiency. Or at least fire-forming will no longer change case capacity to the extent that you need a separate, slightly lower, fire-forming load.WARNING: For your own safety, ALWAYS reduce all starting charges by 10% and work up carefully! There is virtually no difference performance-wise between virgin brass and fire-formed 20 VarTarg brass, so you don't need two different loads. Its difficult to imagine a small capacity rifle case that hasnt been necked up or down to .20 caliber. Barrel Blanks. The middle two are 20 Tactical (39gr TNT and 40gr V-Max), 223 on the right. Practical it is. Likewise, heavier bullets drift less and have a bigger knockdown power, but you won't get the same kind of range from them. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. How much speed you getting from your tactical? A raceway cut in the bolt body captures the bolt release on the left side of the receiver and serves to prevent binding. Redding had .20 Tactical dies in stock along with a form-and-trim die for making cases from .223 Remington brass. No form dies needed. I'll just have to find myself a .224 bushing for my Redding 223 Type S bushing dies I suppose to get the 3- thousandths neck tension I'll feel comfortable with for this 20 Practical AR-15. The 20 Practical is an ideal 20-caliber solution for AR15 platforms. What started as a small dream has become a multi-million dollar international business See page 13 for additional information on crimp dies. All my Brass is LC. To shoot the Berger 50s, Berger recommends a 9-twist. I've been thinking about having a 20 practical made. 20 Practical Ultimate Varminter Uses interchangeable sizing bushings available in .001" increments. Sufficient for my needs. We have found the best method to make Custom dies is to use your firedbrass from the rifles chamber. For example, as stated earlier, some rifles will shoot a Hornady 32gr V-MAX very well, but they won't shoot the 40gr V-MAX. So that is the right decapping part #? For heavier ones, a one-in-9-inch twist is recommended, especially at longer ranges. Our Custom dies will solve problems such as sticky extraction and the dreaded Bolt click without over working your brass. dies are supplied with both the standard size button and a decapping pin retainer for the advantages and versatility described under our Type S - Bushing Style Neck Sizing Dies. I came to much prefer the latter as the first was somewhat unsatisfactory and the second left an unsightly wrinkle behind the shoulder. We offer Custom Sizers, Seaters, Hydraulic Form Dies and Trim Dies from .20 Caliber to .408. Location: Iowa. I shoot ground rats & I find myself leaving the bolt setups in the safe more often than not & the AR's going almost every time. At the same time, it appears some rise above the norm. Warren's cartridge was aptly named. Thank you for the help. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The 20 Practical feeds and functions 100% reliably with standard AR15 magazines. Then run the brass through a Tactical 20 forming die, and finally run it through a Tactical 20 full-length die. forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/crimp-die-for-20-practical.4062155/, Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 14_7_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/14.1.2 Mobile/15E148 Safari/604.1. Both have rifle length gas systems if I am at the bench I like the 26 much better if I am in the RZR I like the 20". The .20 Practical is just that, probably the best mid range, hi-volume, rodent killer cartridge ever. Perhaps it is at its best with the heavier bullets. For the tests, in purchasing whatever could be found in stores and requesting samples of those I couldnt from manufacturers, I ended up with the Barnes 26-grain HP Varmint Grenade, Hornady 32-grain V-MAX, Sierra 32-grain BlitzKing, a Berger 35-grain Varmint, a Sierra 39-grain BlitzKing and Hornadys 40-grain V-MAX. 20 VARTARGThe 20 VarTarg (VARmint/TARGet) is another 20-Caliber cartridge designed by Todd Kindler for varmint hunting. I see Hornady makes dies for the 20 Tactical, but then do you need the form die? About the cost of the parts to build. $205.99. Gain twist bbls cost about 100.00 more than standard twist bbls. You have to use the bushing die so you can neck down to 20 cal.It takes more than one step so you need to change size of bushing and your regular 223 die cant do that. Support Our SPONSORS Optimizing the AR15 as a Varmint Rifle A Cooper Model 21 was used to develop .20 Tactical loads. More. Before putting too much stock in what size bushing everyone lists measure your brass. You start with a 223 Remington brass that has been full-length sized in a .223 die. Lets get started. Low noise derived from relatively small powder charges in small capacity cases coupled with long barrels plays well in settled areas and among farmers who would prefer to keep things down to a roar. Check out the Load Map below and you'll see that the diminutive VarTarg pushes the 32gr pills up into the 3750+ fps range with much less powder than is used by the .204 Ruger or 20 BR. I have formed over 1000 pcs of 20 practical brass. I know Bullberry makes a two ended die to go from 221 FB to 17 FB, does anyone know if they make one for 223 to 20 practical. We suggest you try both and use the brand that shoots better in your rifle. Access from your Country was disabled by the administrator. If you choose to send your fired brass, please do not resize and plan to send in three pieces. These are available in Flat-Base, Short Boat-tail, and Full Boat-tail designs in weights ranging from 30 to 50 grains. Whether youre a hunter or a competition shooter Whidden Gunworks can manufacture Custom dies to your exact specifications and if needed can work with your gunsmith to ensure your dies are as accurate as your new rifle. There was some hope Lapua would produce 20 VarTarg brass for Dakota Arms, but that deal is off the table. Lead time for Custom dies is currently averaging 10 weeks from thethe 1st of the following month in which your order was placed and your brass or reamer print was received by us. I also wondered if my big bag of Winchester brass I had dug out off the bin and sized annealed was the culprit, or if I had sized all that Win brass with the bigger bushing I have that didn't give me enough neck tension and didn't shoot well. I have read all sorts of things. Also this will be perfect for the 17 m 4 as all you would need to do is run it in a 17 m 4 FL die, no other forming. document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) To create 20 Practical cases, just buy a .223 Rem Redding Type "S" Bushing Die . You must log in or register to reply here. I wouldnt Count them out just because its not on their website. Currently, Cooper Arms of Montana and Dakota Arms offer factory rifles in 20 VarTarg. Size the case in a Redding .223 Full Length Bushing Die using a .226 bushing placed in the die label side up - the bushing must be free to move slightly inside the die to ensure it is self centering. Which Bullet Should I Use?When selecting bullets, the general rule of thumb is "let the rifle decide what bullet it likes". $1435.00. Can I use my set of 223 headspace go / no-go gauges to set or is there a special set for the practical? Although we have heard no complaint about the Berger bullets no being explosive enough, polymer tip bullets (Hornady and Sierra) tend to be more explosive than the Berger, but maybe not quite as accurate. Based on the .223 Remington parent case, the Tactical 20 is simply the .223 necked down to 20 Caliber with a 30-degree shoulder. Actually I tried several techniques: simply running sized .223 Remington cases into the .20 Tactical sizing die; first using the form-and-trim die then the .20 Tactical sizing die; and what Sharpless called the Redding way, using the .20 Tactical bullet seating die as an intermediate step between the .223 Remington sizer and the .20 Tactical sizer. I have about 5k of it sitting around from the 80's. The "20. 5.1 using manufacturer's published ballistic coefficients. I have about 5k of it sitting around from the 80's. REDDING 20 TACTICAL FORM #1 DIE CUSTOM Quantity: Read 3 Reviews Customers Who Bought This Also Bought HORNADY 17c (.172) 20gr V-MAX BULLET 100/BX Our Price: $23.29 $0.23 per piece In Stock Item #: HRN21710 HORNADY MICROJUST SEATING STEM Our Price: $34.99 In Stock Item #: HRN044090 HORNADY 20c (.204) 32gr V-MAX BULLET 100/BX Our Price: $23.29 This rifle has less than 125 rds through it. We can custom match your dies for Factory Rifles as well as Custom Rifles including auto loading rifles. If you are the site owner (or you manage this site), please whitelist your IP or if you think this block is an error please open a support ticket and make sure to include the block details (displayed in the box below), so we can assist you in troubleshooting the issue. It seems to be a good combination of case capacity and bullet. Dies & Reloading Tools. It should not touch going into a fired case. All Type S (except 17 and 20 Cal.) It may not display this or other websites correctly. Nor is there a need for neck turning. Please read before using our Custom Sizer Die, Lead time for Custom dies is currently averaging 10 weeks. What's not to like? All Type S (except 17 and 20 Cal.) No mechanical mods are required to your AR, other than a barrel change. Since all these cartridges are built around a love of varmint hunting, this is an important consideration. Reloading die manufacturers have been forced to design the neck diameter of their dies small enough to accommodate the thinnest possible brass. The Hornady V-MAX bullets and the Sierra BlitzKing tend to be equally explosive and both fragment very well. Finally, the case is run into the full-length .20 Tactical sizing die that sets the shoulder back and makes the cases ready for fireforming. He used, as best as I can determine, IMI cases that he rated very highly. There seemed to be a pattern emerging. I see 20 Tactical dies but none for 20 Practical. Ok, so I thought I would go ahead and get my Redding dies and bushings so I can start forming brass while I'm getting money together for the rest of my .20 Practical build. The Redding form-and-trim die is on the left, with a new micrometer adjustable seating stem for the bullet seating die. Submit your own rating by logging in. 20 Tactical - maybe a slight velocity edge over 20 Practical due to steeper shoulder, longer neck, (Lapua) factory brass (supposedly) available, off-the-shelf dies available; possibly not as smooth feeding as 20 Practical.204 Ruger - available off-the-shelf ammo, available (Winchester) factory brass, probable velocity edge over 20 Practical/20 . Picture Information. Most 20 VarTarg shooters are satisfied with the quality (and price), so long as the Rem brass is weight-sorted and prepped before loading. When first acquainted with the .20 Tactical some years ago, I was provided loads by Black Hills using TAC powder from Western Powders Ramshot line, Hornady 32-grain V-MAX or Sierra 39-grain BlitzKing bullets, all in Winchester cases. yes they will fit. Are they pretty close? Most of the credit must go to the fine Cooper rifle and good bullets, but the cartridge design is certainly entitled to its share. REDDING 20 TACTICAL BUSH. The Type S Elite set is comprised of a Type S Bushing Full Die, A Type S Bushing Neck Die and the unparalleled Redding Competition Seating Die. The cartridge uses a standard .223 Remington shellholder. So, if youve a mind to, try the Redding approach, and if dissatisfied, the form-and-trim die is always available. Please allow 3-6 weeks for delivery. Specialty Parts. Red Dot, Holographic, Magnifiers & Laser Sights, Angle Degree Indicators & Reticle Levelers, HORNADY 17c (.172) 20gr V-MAX BULLET 100/BX, HORNADY 20c (.204) 32gr V-MAX BULLET 100/BX, HORNADY 20 TACTICAL SERIES III FL 2-DIE SET, S/H #16. With the 20 Practical you need a 223 S die with . Be the first to receive our best deals, latest products, promos & more. For its 55-grain BT, Berger recommends a one-in-8-inch or faster twist. I shoot a .20 tactical with 22 inch barrel and it has a rifle length gas tube and 10 twist shooting 39g sierras. NECK DIE SET COMPETITION, REDDING 20 TACTICAL TYPE S FULL BUSHING DIE, REDDING 20 TACTICAL TYPE S NECK BUSHING DIE, REDDING 20 TACTICAL TYPE S NECK BUSHING DIE SET, REDDING 20 TAC TYPE-S ELITE BUSHING 3-DIE SET, WILSON 17/20 TACTICAL BUSHING NECK DIE *S/O, Red Dot, Holographic, Magnifiers & Laser Sights, Angle Degree Indicators & Reticle Levelers. The particulars were the Hornady 32-grain V-MAX bullet and H-322 powder. Simply run a .221 Fireball case through a 20 VarTarg full-length sizer die--then load, and shoot. After much loading and shooting, I must agree with those who say that all the powders tested performed well. We understand early in a rifle build fired brass may not be available. To be fair, in my experience, some of the .22-caliber cartridges provide more explosive hits on such targets as prairie dogs, but to that we must put the question: Are there degrees of dead? I wasn't sure what brass I would use when I bought the barrel. The project has been great fun, and Ive never shot as many three-shot groups with all bullets making a single hole as was experienced with the .20 Tactical. 20 Practical Cartridge - Making Brass and Loading - YouTube A video showing how easy it is to make brass for and load the 20 Practical cartridge A video showing how easy it is to make brass. Not sure, I'm going to remove the expander and take some measurements. The seating die (ST) includes bullet guide, built-in crimp ring and the p roper . In those circumstances we can use your reamer print but please note the fired brass will usually yield the best results. I want an 18" 20 practical, what gas length and twist rate? Currently, Cooper Arms of Montana and Dakota Arms offer factory rifles in Tactical 20 chamberings.Since the Tac 20's parent case is the ubiquitous .223 Remington, there is a huge selection of high quality brass available, limited only by your budget. The 20 Practical is great option for folks who favor "fast and light" smaller, lower-mass bullets traveling at very high velocities. Why? Without their load data, wise advice, and invaluable assistance, this page could not have been created. Robert Whitley (AR-X Enterprises, LLC.) I'm using Norma USA match brass, the neck wall thickness is .013. Support Our SPONSORS Yes, Warren tells us, it does get sunny now and then in Vancouver, WA. may be contacted via his website www.6mmAR.com. The rifle's forend is ventilated to assist in barrel cooling, a nice touch on a varmint rifle. Part of what makes this interesting is that Kindler, in writing on the subject, found using the form-and-trim die to work best, noting that when he used the .20 Tactical seating die method he experienced those same wrinkles behind the shoulder. The adjustable decapping rod allows positioning the bushing to resize only a portion of the neck length if desired. The author has had excellent results using IMI brass, which is strong and very durable.Forming 20 Tactical brass is generally a two-step process. #2666026 - 04/01/14 08:14 AM Re: Forming 20 practical with RCBS Dies/equipment [ Re: dogduster204 ] You have to use the bushing die so you can neck down to 20 cal.It takes more than one step so you need to change size of bushing and your regular 223 die cant do that. The adjustable decapping rod allows you to adjust the bushing position, sizing only part of the neck length when desire d . Be the first to receive our best deals, latest products, promos & more. Some precision shooters like to start with Lapua brass. Are there any options for dies other than Redding Type S 223 with different a bushing? by Redding Reloading Equipment.All Rights Reserved. Among ball, or spherical, powders, Id have to give the nod to Accurate 2230 and 2520 with Ramshot X-Terminator and Hodgdon H-335 trailing, but not by much. The beauties of the .20s, their fans will tell you, are numerous. Use a Redding Type S 223 dies, and use 2 seperate bushings to neck down to 20 cal. I've been thinking about having a 20 practical made. Most reloaders develop two loads: one with a fast, lightweight bullet for long range on calm days, and a slower but heavier bullet for windy days or larger varmints. Shipping: One flat fee of $12.95 per online order. A chamber type bullet seater positively controls both bullet and cartridge case alignment. Less than 5 in stock Item #: RED78660 REDDING 20 TAC TYPE-S ELITE BUSHING 3-DIE SET . $26.45. This is my first wild cat so I wanted to ask a few questions before I get started. We've compiled complete ballistics tables for the most popular Berger, Hornady, and Sierra Bullets, with drop and wind-drift calculated from 100 to 500 yards. The 20 Practical feeds and functions 100% reliably with standard AR15 magazines. Only 1 in stock Item #: RED60660 WILSON 17/20 TACTICAL BUSHING NECK DIE *S/O . All I can feel when shooting it suppressed is the action running. You may also find that some brands may shoot very well, but only if you sort the bullets by weight or base to ogive length first. You can start with .223 Rem brass, and just size down the necks with a neck-bushing die. The OD is .256 I removed the expander and sized with the .233 bushing and then checked the ID, the ID now measures .200 with .014 wall thickness! Typical Redding quality. The Woodchuck Den, Inc.11220 Hilltop Rd., SWBaltic OH 43804woodchuckden.com, Cooper Firearms of Montana, Inc.PO Box 1143662 Highway 93 NorthStevensville MT 59870cooperfirearms.com, Redding Reloading1089 Starr Rd.Cortland NY 13045redding-reloading.com, Barnes Bullets, Inc.PO Box 620Mona UT 84645(800) 574-9200barnesbullets.com, Hornady Mfg Co.PO Box 18483625 Old Potash HwyGrand Island NE 68803hornady.com, Berger Bullets, Inc.4275 N. Palm St.Fullerton CA 92835bergerbullets.com, Sierra Bullets1400 West Henry St.Sedalia MO 65301(888) 223-3006sierrabullets.com. The latest, the Redding, Type S Elite die set is also a direct result of customer feedback and is available for 85 different cartridges. And this may be a dumb question but if I have to go the Redding route, with that die fit/function in a RCBS press? Of course it did rain the next day. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Durable Tap And Die Tap 3/8\"-32 UNEF High Speed Steel Practical Silver at the best online prices at eBay! Redding Type s decapping assembly 204R. #2 01-16-2013, 03:21 AM bowfisher. NEW 7/8-20 UNEF Tap & 7/8-20 UNEF Die Right Hand HSS High Speed Steel. Every rifle, powder, primer combination may shoot one brand of bullet or one weight range more accurately than another. . 20 practical Die set up on progressive DeadWoodDan Jan 17, 2018 DeadWoodDan Jan 17, 2018 #1 Attempting to be efficient and utilize what I have on hand. This time, accompanying my rifle when it arrived was a laminated target with an elongated hole in it denoting a three-shot group at 100 yards measuring .156 inch. Once the entire batch is made, we send them out to be hardened via a carburized heat treat process to ensure a lifetime of use. I also feel the expander touching going in on my .228 bushing. Sort By: Items Per Page: Item Total: (5) 0 - 5 20 Tactical Series IV Speciality 2 Die Set With Zip Spindle 005-546209 | Hornady $62.35 The answer is no. This McGowan barrel shoots pretty well with the 32g Noslers HP, and WC844. 20 Practical Dies & Headspacing Question SVT_Tactical Dec 10, 2021 1 2 Next SVT_Tactical Gold $$ Contributor Dec 10, 2021 #1 Awaiting a barrel and getting parts ready together to put it on my savage action. $20.00 223 seater die works just fine to seat bullets. What others may consider Wildcat is the norm for us. Posts: 781 A search here could bring up lots of good data, no expert but I'll give you my 2 cents. The Official Predator Masters Search Engine, http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloading-eqsku=749-002-388, http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloading-eqsku=749-002-155. The following tables provide external ballistics information (bullet drop and bullet drift) out to 500 yards with a range of useful velocities for the popular 20 CAL Hornady, and Berger bullets. At this time we are not able to make dies with radius shoulders such as cartridge designs by Weatherby. This die followed with a 20 Tactical Full length die formed LC 5.56 brass into nice 20 Tactical brass. Worked perfectly. This die worked perfectly to form 20Tac brass from .223. This allows the handloader complete control and precision when setting the appropriate neck tension without fear of over working the brass in the case neck. We have found the best method to make Custom dies is to use your fired brass from the rifles chamber. No mechanical mods are required to your AR, other than a barrel change. Woa is a very good source for the 20 Practical. I needed reloading dies and turned to Robin Sharpless of Redding Reloading to discuss the project. To reach those numbers with a .22-caliber bullet, one must exceed 60 grains in weight. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. I haven't seen anyone that has a procedure with RCBS equipment. selling ammunition, reloading supplies and accessories. Other than a custom die set or a 223 bushing die, how would you form and resize for a 20 Practical? I've always thought that the 20 VarTarg would make a very accurate benchrest round with good brass. Todd Kindler reports great accuracy with N120 and the Sierra 32-grainer, running close to 3800 fps. That is saying a lot. JavaScript is disabled. Cooper is well along on this small-caliber journey and chambers its rifles for many of the .17- and .20-caliber cartridges. These bushings are also free-floating to self- center on the case neck for a higher degree of sizing accuracy. Material: 416R Stainless Steel Caliber: .20 Practical Barrel Length: 24" Rifle Length Gas Port 11-degree Target Crown M4 Feed Ramps 1 in 12" Rate of Twist Fluted Barrel Manufacturer: Midwest Gun Works PRODUCT SPECIFICATIONS: Barrel Length: 24" Brand: MGW Caliber: .20 Practical Finish / Color: Stainless Steel Firearm Type: Rifle Material: Steel Both have 1/10 twist. Recently picked one up and want to make some more loads than what it came with. 20 practical case forming I am gathering the parts for my 20 practical AR. While researching on how to make the brass, it seems everyone talks about using a Redding 223 FL die set with bushings and a 204 decapping rod assembly. If you are uncertain just email a photo of the cartridge and we can make a determination. At $20 per bushing, I should have measured first and bought second. Bushings are available in hardened steel but also are available with a TIN (Titanium Nitride) coating for even greater lubricity. Concentricity is enhanced by the ability of the bushing to self-center on the neck of the cartridge case. The past few years you have seen the introduction of many new sets like the National Match, Master Hunter and the Premiums as a result of changing trends in the category and stated desires of the customer base. The .20 Practical project is now in the ammo production phase. 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