This will be a great alternative to the gas powered lawn tractor. I am considering the 4 year extended warranty. Craftsman has the locking diff in the 50 Craftsman Pro. When you change the clutch please take pictures as you disassemble it. Nice page! Save. I'm moving to a home with roughly 3/4 acre, mostly flat, with lots of landscaping. I also dont like to stop to shift, but I live with it because Im too cheap to buy a better tractor at this point in time. Thanks again, Zack. (50 hours) If you dont use it on hills more than 15 degrees. Overall, I feel that the XT2 might be a little pricey, but I havent been able to find anything of better value. With the RS 800 there is more mechanical reduction using gears so you will hear more noise from the trans. So, if youre looking for a low-cost, lightweight transmission made for flat lawns or slightly hilly lawns where the traction tends to be good, your best bet is to look for the K46, which is found in lawn tractors. Paul, The gears are simply notches in the speed selector on the dash. It starts and runs ok, but the transmission will no longer engage. that said. This tends to make the tractor jump when you left out the clutch and I have a lot of people complaining about how jerky this is. Which One Is Best For You? Hi JD, Mowersdirect is a good reputable site. To research your parts you really need the numbers off of the transmission itself. Note: it has a foot control CVT instead of the fender control: 20390 Review. The transmission wears out after about 4 years of use. If you get nowhere with those 2 companies find a dealer in your area that uses the ARI Parts network. That alone is a deciding factor for me in m choosing of a mower. Seeing how expensive it is to even rebuild a T40J I wonder how many hours are left on mine. I saw a website last night: mowersdirect.com last night that has free shipping and would ship it immediately. Of the 3 lawn tractors in this discussion the 28851 Craftsman is clearly the best deal (and its only $200 more than the Ariens). You can see it here: Cub Cadet Lawn Mowers XT1 Enduro Series GT 50 in. @Dixie, The guys over at mytractorforum would be able to help you more than I can. I dont mind doing some modifications to accommodate something different. He hasnt either so I dont know why he would try to tell you otherwise. The belt that drives the hydro also lasts longer than the one for the manual trans. For the cost of the rebuild kit a new unit just seems more cost effectve. Oppositely a 1:3 gear ratio will turn at a third of revolutions of the input gear, thus providing less torque, but increasing the ability of the engine to spin slower to maintain a higher rate of speed. I do suggest the website mytractorforum.com. around $5000 plus the deck. Taller than that and youll have to mow it 2-3 times to get it all cut down. So Paul, having read probably 100 comments and your replys, would I be correct in saying that you would recommend the Craftsman 20391 with a CVT transmission over the Pro Series 20442 with the K46? This site is great and thank for all the advice. Do you know of any true manual shift gear drives? Ive been told that this engine is very good & Ive been told by a mechanic who works for a KUBOTA dealer & he says that this engine is junk ! The seller notes the trans can go for 800-900 on flat land where the trans arent working as hard. Thanks so much for the helpful information. You'll probably tread more carefully trying not to lose your grip so that you don't fall or run off the road. The price difference is down to around $50, so thats not really an issue. Husqvarna uses the G730 on garden tractors without differential lock and the K66 on garden tractors with differential lock. You charge the mower using normal household current. I have two that are great choices. PART NO. I would guess GT has tripled their sales for 2015 over last year. I may think about getting a tiller attachment, but dont think I can cost-justify the prices. I would like the best most reliable auto transmission in this general price range. Background, in case youre curious: I manage between eight and 16 acres of residential terrain (mostly my parents), much of which is quite hilly. So do you think the Craftsman t240 46 inch deck will be better than the t260 50 inch deck? Go to searspartsdirect.com and enter 917.20385 as the model number. It is not allowing the mower to move on that side. If you were potentially looking to buy a garden tractor sometime within the next five years (of 2015), what type of transmission would you most favor/wait for (besides manual)? My D140 is 9 years old now and I have 430 hours on it. Marlton, NJ. The 2015 Cub Cadets and Craftsman Pros use a K58 Tuff Torq. At the end of the season, it started jerking, and then it seemed as if the gears were mashing (usually during a turn). These transmissions are very easy to use. Check out tufftorq.com for contact info. If there arent any which of these that claim to be are the best? There is one other form of CVT that has the possibility of also replacing the hydrostatic transmisson. I have never heard of anyone having issues with the K46 with traction control (the one thats in the XT@ you are looking at). This is the one I was leaning towards. The rest have moved to the newer K57 or K58. What did you decided on? Hi Clayton, The direct replacement for you LT1750 is the 25081. Thanks you again for your very informative site. For the same price or less as the 2015 X310 you can get a Craftsman Pro with larger tires, power steering, larger deck, arm rests, and a lot bigger Kohler 7000 Elite engine. They didnt break but they were hard to use. They will be able to quickly help you with your antique Craftsman. The Repair techs should have a spec sheet that helps them to understand if the trans is bad. Any of the ones I listed is going to require some adaptation and the ones with 1" axles get expensive quickly because the parts are in high demand by people doing the swap. So what gives with this? Youve done your research but the 25081 does not have any reviews up yet on Sears.com. How durable are the Husqvarna lgt54dxl transmissions? Hi Randy, Eventually you will learn to trust me and not some kid in some call center who last answered a call was about socks. Ive seen a few listed with a type of locking rear differential. The specs look good. Typically you will need to replace the engine to trans belt a little more often using it on hills (every 3-4 years instead of every 6-8 years). Read this article and use the info there to check the transmission bolts. Hi Keith, yes, the John Deere LA 175 is a lawn tractor. The Super Bronco XP 50 has 20 inch rear wheels and the 50-inch deck so it was made correctly for the trans. I have a Husqvarna YTH2648TDRF with a Tuff Torq K46Cr in the back end. Home Depot: Cub Cadet XT1 Enduro Series GT 50 in. Also, if you have any general opinions on Craftsman vs. Cub Cadet vs. John Deere, Id love to hear them. If you want to pull a leaf vacumn or move dirt in your yard cart this is not the transmission for you. What do you think about it and about the new EFI engine? To back the tractor up pull the fender lever to the rear or press the small pedal on the floorboard. Didnt find any info on your site on this one, (and thats generally not good). The YTA uses the CVT so you wont burn it out. The other two are Craftsman Pro made by MTD (Cub Cadet) They have the K58 Garden Tractor transmission. They do not differentiate chainsaw dealers from lawn mower dealers. I have an older z 3050 toro time cutter. That is the engine that he had to work on. Maybe thats the best I can do? With the local dealer you get faster service, usually better deals and a lot of expertise. Blow it off with an air compressor. Simply put, it prevents the wheels from slipping. The difference in the two input shafts is that the K71 is threaded at the top rather than entirely splined. Hi Kenneth. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Thanks for the great site and any helpful advice. Very good info but I do have a question . @ Michael, If I could get 4 acres mowed for $35 ? If youve ever driven a stick shift or seen someone do it, you have the basic picture. The hydro also has built in braking. Check it out and then we can go from there to find the right mower for you. Thank you Simplicity also makes a few models in the $5000 and up price that will work. Cub Cadet is using it on all of the 2015 Enduro series and Troy-Bilt lawn tractors. Thanks, its on order! Cub Cadet XT1 Enduro Series GT 50 in. Tuff Torq K46AC E170, E180. Most lawn tractors, yard tractors, garden tractors and estate tractors in the last 20 years have an aluminum housing and inside that housing is the pump, motor, differential and drive axle. A few of the high-end commercial mowers are now using enclosed cast iron hydros. There is no cruise control. This is not a common problem. The trick is knowing what sub model to get. Dennis. It wasnt until I inherited the Craftsman that I started reading up on hydrostats and learned that people generally dont favor them for anything but casual mowing. The tuff Torq site lists the specs on a comparison chart. Most manufacturer's used the K46 in the LT's The JD X324 to X360 use the K58 transmission. Copy all those numbers. The Cub Cadet tractors I showed you will do the job and last but they are twice the money you have budgeted. Looks like they could be the element rs800 as theres no selector gear just petals.. And theyre not hydro.. Any idea? Husqvarna Lawn Garden Tractors | 11 New Improved Models! How important would traction control compared to the transmission be in your opinion? Only spending $1699 wont get you anything capable of the tasks you mention. Hi, I am looking for recommendations as to a garden or utility tractor for some recently purchased property. Copyright KANZAKI KOKYUKOKI MFG. No, the only transaxle that may handle it is the K66 - all the other will overheat. If rebuild, is there an upgrade kit? I have less than three-quarters of an acre with moderate slopes and lots of bumps, ruts, roots, etc. Personally, I would choose the E160. I was looking between jd X310 with K58 and Kawasaki. There are going to be a few new models introduced sometime around March 1st. I know these manual transmission models are being phased out. Its a T2. The 50 inch deck will get you mowing done in a couple of hours. I want to have as durable a transmission as I can in this price range. With the mower turned off sit on the seat and put your hands on the two large levers in front of you. If you havent checked the engine to transmission belt please do that before you give up on the tractor. Are they junk? CVT Automatic Transmissions Simple to use, ideal for all terrain. Cub Cadet Ultima ZTX Zero-Turn Mowers Better, Bigger, Badder! (The easiest way to explain how to drive a two-lever zero turn mower is to use a shopping cart as an example. @Anthony, The brands are treating transmissions just like another component like a starter, tire or steering wheel so it is very hard for a consumer to figure it all out. Expecting to get at least 15 years out of a brand new machine. The names that I see locally are John Deere, Toro, Husqvarna, X Marks, Craftsman, Cub Cadet, Ariens, Kohler, Poulan, and Stihl. I like Cub Cadet because there are many local dealers and its easy to get parts and help if you need it. The Ariens compares favorably to the 28884 craftsman made for them by MTD. With an external oil reservoir and a external oil filter (both for the hydro . Please make sure the drives (transmissions) and engine are good before you buy one. I also weigh almost 400 lbs. So its opposite of the lawn tractor he has now. Thanks Paul,You have been a tremendous help! No, its the ratio of the engine pulley to the transmission pulley. Would this be a cvt variable pulley type? I want something that will be ground engaging rated and will push some dirt and blow snow. In front of the right wheel is the parking brake (usually) it should be loose but not bent. The problem with this mower is the same as all LGT (light garden tractor) mowers in the $2000-$2500 price range. New Lot of 2 OEM Tuff Torq Transmission Axle Oil Seal 187T0134280 for K46 & T40. Hi Darrel, All three models are heavy-duty tractors capable of ground engaging work. Most of the manufactures including Mahindra and Kubota still have one or two manual transmission tractors. Tuff Torqs are standard in garden and lawn tractors the riding mowers designed to pull various kinds of attachments: The names of Tuff Torqs models follow a straightforward convention: the higher the number, the greater the potential power and durability the transmission offers. Other than that it was an excellent tractor and was a staple in the Craftsman line for years. The 22 inch wheels and the 54-inch deck is too big for the lawn tractor transmission. I'm going to buy a YT3000 and am trying to decide between the 6 speed and the hydrostatic. K46CR K46CR 00000 01 -0003302 - ( K46CR -HOP / 7A646084320) KEY NO. My husband is handicapped and cannot use his right foothe is currently using a 20 year old Craftsman lawn tractor and looking to get a new one. Not every rear engine riding mower uses a hydrostatic transmission; some brands still produce rear-engine riders with gear-based transmission systems. What lawn baggers will work I want a three bag but they are \telling me they only have a two bag version for the 27038, but I see a three bag version on the site that fits42-46 mowers ?? Maybe buy a Deere, but Deere's with K66 are pricey. Have you changed to the new blades from Power Equipment Discounters? I tried to find out the difference between the 20HP through 25HP Kohler 7000 series (KT715-KT740) engines and have been unable to identify a difference except for the carb. (traction control) This feature is found on very few lawn tractors and really makes mowing a safer experience. Instead of one bar like a shopping cart, the bar is split in two and you move each side to make it move.). It will last for your lawn. Thanks Paul Thanks again. Cant find any reviews and they are never in the ratings. But don t go front. . An automatic transmission on the gray Craftsmans is a variable speed belt drive. These transmissions are not like the older styles though. If you really want a zero-turn look for a used 48 inch ExMark. I want a gear-manual style shift and not a peddle style. All are Craftsmanmodel: 20409 (54 deck 24hp Briggs, 48 wheelbase, turn tight) and model: 27055 (54 deck 26hp Briggs, 40 wheelbase, turn tight extreme) and model: 27048 (50 deck, 26hp Kohler, locking differential, 40 wheelbase)no turn tightwhy?? However, automatic transmissions have been the default on riding mowers for some time. or Best Offer. If the price of the tractor is less than $1500 its not the heavy duty CVT. The guys over there live and breathe modifying this stuff. The articles are very informative. I cant find any true manual transmission mowers built in 2018. The DREADED Tuff-Torq K46 Tranny OK guys. Can I use that in the Saber? So they are not going to use the General Transmissions brand. This new-in-box hydrostatic transaxle is originally manufactured to fit Sears, Craftsman, Poulan, Husqvarna, and Weed-Eater brand front-engine lawn tractors and riding mowers. Take it back! The 2001 looked bad but come to find out the only thing wrong with it was a bad battery and bad fuel. The rest of the mower is a nice step up from you old tractor. There is one: Craftsman 54 Fast Auto 24 HP Briggs & Stratton V-Twin Turn Tight Garden Tractor Model 20408. The 28851 Craftsman has a better Briggs Intek Plus engine (they call it a platinum) has a better seat (whoopie!) Hi Bob, I predict everyone will switch to EFI in the next 5 years. If it is still working and you have an appropriate property and tasks for it, keep using it. Is this a common complaint and what tranny do I need. Looking for your advise on whether to try to figure out the mohawk issue on the Simplicity, or keep the D130, or look for something that is better suited for the hills. I am not going into the details of how each one works. The D130. As for craftsman I need the better seat that only cub offers and have not been happy with Sears lately..thanks again, Hi Laurie, The transmission in the XT2 is different than the standard K46. would be great. Craftsman 25587 42 19 HP Briggs & Stratton Fender Hydro Automatic Riding Mower. Hi Randy, If you want a gear drive you have to go to a sub-compact nowadays. I have a 2 yr JD with a hydrostatic tran D125 with 77hrs. Thanks for any info. 22 HP V-Twin Gas Hydrostatic Lawn Tractor, Craftsman 25587 42 19 HP Briggs & Stratton Fender Hydro Automatic Riding Mower. Used parts are sometimes available, but rarely cheap. Electrics are coming and I feel in the next 5 years you will see affordable homeowner versions. The specs for both the K58 and K66 are pretty close. Craftsman Pro Series 50 26 HP V-Twin Kohler Garden Tractor with Turn Tight Extreme. (Sometimes called a automatic hydrostatic). Best Riding Lawn Mowers - The ULTIMATE Guide | SuaveYards.com, 2019 Troy-Bilt Super Bronco XP 50 at Home Depot, Craftsman 19A30003799 4246 2-Bin Bagger, https://services.generaltransmissions.com/en/?lang=en, Craftsman 20407 48 24 HP V-Twin Briggs & Stratton with TurnTight Garden Tractor, Model #247255870 Craftsman lawn, tractor transmission, John Deere E140 48 in. Just looking on the net which suggests the trans will only last 400-600 hrs. How do these people stay in business? I am considering the Craftsman 20386 manual transmission yard tractor to replace my Craftsman 917.271831 which Ive had for about 15 years. Basically I want what I had-but I dont want to end up with a clunker. 1 523 05 82- 01 K46 CR HOP 7A646084320 53 505 56 48- 01 CONTROL LEVER F 1A646029400. Are there any lawn tractors made today without the pedal drive? It sounds like the ideal trans, but why are there so few machines that utilize it ?? You may have been looking at the 20381. That said, The K66ELD has a locking differential so if you ever want to mount a snow blower on the tractor or you have slopes steeper than 10 degrees that trans has the best traction. Dump Carts There are cheap, good carts and expensive, bad carts. The $1000 ones like the Craftsman T1000 have a manual, shift-on-the-go transmission. One is not noticeably better than the other. To back up? The K66 has 1" axles compared to the 3/4" ones on the K46. Then crawl under the Toro and check it out. Fast & Free shipping on many items! Raise the rear end of the tractor off the ground (you can use your car jack) an inch or so. I have about 1 + acre of rough unfinished yard. Thy list the 20390 as an auto. Thanks, I assume using a yard seep weekly, hauling 300-400 Lbs now and then in a wagon is ok? Add a direction reversing lever in the control rod. hydro-static housings. When you let out the clutch it is now really jerky. If you have questions then Ill be glad to assist. 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